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Absent from the meeting today. she was over at the white house instead. do you think she should have been there given that she is one of the two democrats holding things up dramatically right now? >> i think it's important for the president of the united states, who ran on someone who can bring our country together and move us forward, to be invested in the kind of time he has been investing in getting us over the finish line, getting this package of his policy proposals embraced bit entire caucus. if that means spending time with moderates and progressives in person at the white house, that's...

What happened. just deny what happened. let's talk about what's in front of us right now. you've made it very clear who you find responsible for the stalemate in washington right now. and cnn reports that president biden told lawmakers that he has spent many hours with senators manchin and sinema and said, "they don't move." so if they won't move or they don't move for him, the president, what's supposed to happen? >> well, don, you know, in my conversations with the white house i hear that senators manchin and sinema are sitting down, are negotiating, are talking about what they are for, not ...

And -- on the mall. and he's saying okay, that wasn't a big deal. so again, very perilous time and people are trying to downplay what happened. just deny what happened. let's talk about what's in front of us right now. you've made it very clear who you find responsible for the stalemate in washington right now. and cnn reports that president biden told lawmakers that he has spent many hours with senators manchin and sinema and said, "they don't move." so if they won't move or they don't move for him, the president, what's supposed to happen? >> well, don, you know, in my conversations with the...

Remarkable about this situation is this is not some crazy progressive left-wing wish list. i've got that, ari, but that's not what this is. this is the president's agenda. this is what we all ran on. and so that's some of the frustration you see spilling out. i am trying to make sure that we just keep everyone onboard, that we push for the priorities that the progressive caucus laid out that are in the president's agenda, because at the end of the day i want people across this country to know that government is fighting for them, that we're not going to leave people behind, that we're not goin...

Very, very safe seats, and people in what's called front line seats. people that are in swing seats that have to defend next year. there's an amazing degree of consensus on this legislation, which again, embodies the agenda that joe biden ran on. if you printed on his website in the campaign, this is it. this is what democrats are bringing before the country after he won the election. the problem continues to be there are these notable holdouts and democrats need 100% consensus to get the bill passed. so you probably know who the holdouts are. arizona senator kyrsten sinema. she did issue a st...