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>> yes. >> and you were also trained on the readiness aspects of use of force, right, being ready to engage whatever force might be required, right? >> yes. >> including making decisions under stress, right? >> what do you mean? >> well, you had a lot of scenario-based training, right? >> yes. >> and in those situations those -- those scenarios were set up to be as close as they could be to real life, right? >> i suppose. >> so you would be trained to have to make decisions in the-month-old moment about what to do and what force to do? >> it was a training situation so it was usually slow and ...

Correct? >> yes. >> and as part of the training that you went through every year, they cover topics, all kinds of uses of force. right? >> yes. >> including the things on your duty belt and maybe other things the department can use as well? >> only the things i was assigned on my duty belt. >> okay. in any case, that use of force training was a pretty key component of being an officer, right? >> yes. >> you were trained about when you could use force, how much force to use, and what would be appropriate force. fair? >> fair. >> and not only were you trained on that, but you had a lot of policy...

0 >> where's that at? >> he's currently stationed in florida. >> and your other son, where is he at? >> he's in college in north dakota. >> are they going to be home for the holidays? >> yes, they will. >> is your mother in the courtroom? >> yes. >> and your sister? >> no, she's not. >> but is your brother in the courtroom. >> yes, he is. >> and besides your brother and your mother, your father is deceased? >> yes. >> and do you have any other siblings? >> i have another sister and a brother. >> what do they -- do you know what their ages are? >> my oldest sister is in her 50s and my other bro...

0 >> no, they are not. >> and where is nicholas? >> he is an active duty marine. >> and where is that at? >> he's currently stationed in florida. >> and your other son, where is he at? >> in college in north dakota. >> and are they going to be home for the holidays? >> yes, they will. >> is your mother in the courtroom? >> yes. >> and your sister? >> no, she's not. >> but is your brother in the courtroom? >> yes, he is. >> and besides your brother and your mother and your father is deceased? >> yes. >> and do you have any other siblings? >> i have another sister and a brother. >> do you know w...