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The argument that we keep getting that they are beautiful pieces of art just isnt holding because they are very small pieces of graffiti. Thats just the same visually. Again, most graffiti is text. 90 percent of the text, with all those categories that we have where were trying to depict what graffiti is out there, we can now go to the arts council or anybody else who wants to argue with us and say 90 percent of the observed graffiti we have in edmonton is text only. Given all those options, thats what were finding. So the other avenue thats important for us in terms of how i run my program is...

Put in the notification system. So we have those tags documented against him so they are going to levy more charges against him. So its been clearly helpful in terms of our enforcement efforts but it is clearly seen if you can get out those top 10taggers its going to make a huge difference. They accounted for 40 percent of the activity seen this year in the audit. Most graffiti we found is small, 88 percent of the observed graffiti was smalled or extra small. So basically were not looking at big tags. The argument that we keep getting that they are beautiful pieces of art just isnt holding bec...

Its like an interview, okay. And they tell you. You find Something Like jugs didnt have a dad. He said, i didnt have a dad to kick my ass to keep me right. Its okay, man. You try to hit those things and work them that way. Mod, same thing. He was addict today it. Could not stop. Did not want to stop. Just kept going. Told me that if we didnt stop him, hed still be writing. But here, 61 2 years in prison. So, we sat on that house. We arrested him that day. It was a great day, it was a great time. Got him put behind bars. Did his fingerprints. Guess what . Fingerprints came back. I got hits all ...

I introduce jennifer nelson, we introduced her before. applause a lot of you have talked to her already. She will be working with the speakers on stage. And id like to introduce jim merkasio with the San Francisco graffiti advisory board. He will be the phil donahue. I hand you the microphone. Ill hold onto it. I believe the way were planning to do this, we have some written questions that we will be reading off and the panel will be answering them. Ill also be taking questions from the audience. So, if anybody has a question, feel free to raise your hand. Allow me to have time to get over the...

Ill wait for the advertisement. [video presentation] money for your gold. [video presentation continued] [speaker not understood]. All right. William brahas, 20 years old, how we caught him, too, he used a lot of the internet. He was all over youtube, facebook. His girlfriend was big in helping us locate him. She put it on her facebook. You know, i dont know if you guys know this, too, when you take a picture and you post it on your facebook, it gives a little longitudelatitude. Thats how we got up to glendale. Were in phoenix, arizona. Lets see. Heres a little bit about jugs again real quick....