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That it is the tip of the spear of donald trump's immigration, divisive immigration policy. do you share that view? >> not at all. every single day i.c.e. is doing incredible work. under the obama administration, they were focused on getting criminals off the streets. there are dangerous criminals in this country unlawfully. at the same time, people don't realize i.c.e. is focused on saving children from sexual exploitation, prevent the export of arms to iran and north korea. busting up drug cartels. they played a critical role in the arrest of chapo guzman. that's the work that everybody supp...

78 people saved. thank you very much, adrian. last month under operation eagle shield right here in the d.c. area, i.c.e. officers arrested 132 illegal alien, including criminal aliens charged or convicted of rape, battery and strangulation. among those arrested -- >> okay. you get the gist. you've been listening to president trump. he gathered top members of his administration, including the vice president, the head of homeland security for an event labeled as a salute to the heroes of immigration and customs enforcement. i'm joined by the former director of i.c.e. and was acting director of ...

Within the confines of a natural security debate, so in his mind that's what i.c.e. is doing, they are protecting national security and that's something in his mind that democrats don't seem to be that interested in. to the extent that i.c.e. does do work in the interest of national security, how does this narrative manage going forward? >> so national security really shouldn't be a partisan issue the way that the president just was making it in those introductory comments. i was surprised in particular to hear him say democrats do not mind crime. you know, before i was at doj in the national ...

Clearance. john sandwig is a former director of i.c.e. thanks to both of you. up next, a stunning letter from pope francis apologizing for the cover-up of sexual abuse in parishes across pennsylvania. why he says the church showed no care for the little ones. and what's going to change? you're watching msnbc. and now is the best time to buy. you ready for this, junior? yeah, i think i can handle it. no pressure... ...that's just my favorite boat. boom. (laughs) make summer go right with ford, america's best-selling brand. and get our best deal of the summer: zero percent financing for sixty ...

A friend of mine, south carolina attorney general, alan wilson and sheriffs from all around the country. thank you, alan. thank you. sheriff's, thank you. say hello to your father. most importantly, let me extend my gratitude to every law enforcement professional representing i.c.e. and cbc, enforcement and removal operations, homeland security investigations, i.c.e. prosecutors, the office of field operations, air and marine operationing as and border patr. you're incredible people, you do an unbelievable job. you're not appreciated enough, but i tell you what, 99% we get it. we really get it...