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So there's a lot here for the court to chew on, but jack smith has stuck with the same argument he's been making all along. >> do you think if you're team trump that this is about delay, or do you believe you have a the shot of getting this tossed. >> i think there's three things. he is hoping that eventually if he loses in the d.c. circuit and can get the supreme court to accept this case, he's hoping that he will pull enough justices to say there should be presidential immunity and will agree what he was doing was within the scope of his official act. he wants that because then the case is o...

Block the peaceful transfer of power. the first time a the president has ever tried to do that, ever since he was charged, his poll numbers have been inching upward fairly steadily. >> if you are jack smith's team, how do you pair for these arguments? >> he rebutted them in the filing. he put in with the court on saturday, which is that the founders could never have imagined that a the president would be um mun from committing crimes that were directed at overwriting the will of the people and staying in office when you're not elected. the jack smith points to the text of the constitution, whi...

He has no current exposure. and yet in fulton county, he is square in the middle of her sights. being able to move to federal court it advances his chances to say either i have a better jury pool and/or a better chance of arguing immunity because i have this other federal case where i've been ab amazing cooperator rather than a charged unindicted coconspirator. >> there's also another detail that i found really interesting, which is that meadows beefd up the legal team. he added veteran trial lawyer paul clement. worth noting he has refused to represent trump in the past. i wonder if you read ...

Will all play out. given that the case law is so thin here, to what extent do you think the justices are relying and watching what the appeals courts do? >> it's one appeals court here. the d.c. circuit. most cases don't get to the supreme court until an issue is percolated among multiple sur kits, but this is not that kind of a case. i actually think there's a not insubstantial chance if the d.c. circuit rules and makes a thorough ruling and has using the strictest tests possible, that the supreme court might deny to take this case. i realize it's important. it's an issue of first i want ill ...