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Was transactional in the sense that donald trump is punishing french president macron for his comments. they need support of other nations and they're seeing an isis and al-qaeda growing outside of their ability to control it. >> that is exactly what the american troops are doing. they are primarily there training security forces to suppress islamic groups. there is about 7,000 troops on a the whole, how would withdrawaling them impact u.s. national security. >> withdrawing trooping from around the world, the reconnaissance support, all of these states, not just france, to the countries in eur...

Strike offensive against the situation in yemen. rebels there, the houthis, and the u.s. is providing support. not actively involved but providing support. the houthis are backed by iran and thus the complexity. what you see in yemen is we're acting against iran and iran-backed forces the houthis or the shia-backed rebels destabilizing the country. we're on the side of the sunnis here we're on the side of a ten-country coalition, all of this them sunnis led by saudi arabia. we don't have planes or boots on the ground but the u.s. is providing intelligence and some kind of reconnaissance suppor...

No-fly zone. i think the administration has the right cautionary tone that it's taking. but at the same time, if the president is calling for gadhafi stepping down and the revolutionaries are calling for support, there's things we can do short of significant overt boots on the ground. reconnaissance support, we provide intelligence to the revolutionary forces, we provide humanitarian support, things that can be done without the united states having to violate secretary gates' admonition that we shouldn't involve ourselves directly overtly militarily in this effort. >> okay. former u.s. ambassa...

But to get bogged down in a no fly zone may not help. we could oppose the -- at the same time, even though we may not have the support of nato and other nations to impose a no fly zone. my biggest concern is that there's an enormous amount of hand wringing going on here and the worst thing that could happen is a stalemate that would allow islamic extremists to enter into libya from the sah a sahara. >> what kind of help do you think we should be offering? >> reconnaissance support, humanitarian support. we could be providing them arms, we could be providing them specific target data. that's wh...