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Stairwell, or the down exiting, egress, correct . So, you have to, you might have a different set of rules for the stairwell, requiring outside source or something. Which would then be more important in the higher buildings. You have that issue, so, just i want to bring that up that that might be considered, and then you are talking about the return air, coming in and so you are assuming that a system that just might push in the air and go out from some of the other source within. And so it will go out, and not in the corridor. Right. And that, and i think that it pauls design or in tent, the ...

That . There is not one defined in the Building Code. I understand that, and the reason that i asked if we are allowing the smoke to get into the corridors we are actually changing the peoples perception of what is happening in those corridors, the layman people, may not recognize it, and this is not, this is safe. And there is smoke in here, but this is safe. Right. That is one of my concerns, about allowing the smoke into the corridors and only into the stairwell, and i can tell you from experience, and in my college days i lived in an apartment and there was a fire in the corridor and where...

Kind of do away, with the egress window that is not true. The article 38, and it may, prohibit the natural ventation through the windows, egress windows and included and but in the event of fire, the egress window the buildings should still be designed by the egress windows and so they are by no means made available. In terms of the dbis position and this issue, it clearly represents a deviation from the current code and we all know that the code is a little lagging behind most in the case behind the technology and mr. Oneal correctly pointed out that todays technology, the Response Time of th...

Allowing the smoke into these corridor and stairwells . What is the standard for that . There is not one defined in the Building Code. I understand that, and the reason that i asked if we are allowing the smoke to get into the corridors we are actually changing the peoples perception of what is happening in those corridors, the layman people, may not recognize it, and this is not, this is safe. And there is smoke in here, but this is safe. Right. That is one of my concerns, about allowing the smoke into the corridors and only into the stairwell, and i can tell you from experience, and in my co...

Here. Clinch and melgar are excused. We have a quorum and the next item is president s announcements fp before we get into the president announcements, if i could get the commissioners a heads up that on item 7 we are going to somehow go in between 9 30 to a quarter to ten, and there is no objection, then if we are in the middle of something and i might stop and go right to 7, okay . Because we have some people here waiting for that. And it should not take too long, in the closed session from what i understand, okay . So with that, karvin began to work with us and spent two years with rec and ...