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Chastising the syrians, iranians and the russians saying have you no shame. but what president obama is saying is the shame is on him. he has to live with that. one of the things that history will have to decide later on is looking back at that decision he made several years ago to not enforce his red line was the day i think that it led to the wreckage of the world. not only do you have this problem in aleppo, but the migrant crisis that we report on in europe. >> 11 million people. >> the only way to solve a refugee problem is at its source. president obama was saying that the country did no...

Change s drastically when you'r getting the presidential daily briefing. it just changed. stuff is incredible in this thing and you will change your views. >> give me another beat on that, bob. this notion that the moment the office can change the man in this case. how so? >> well, he's got to do a lot of reading. this stuff, you don't see it in "the new york times" you don't see it on cnn. these are intercepts of different communications and conversations and, you know, bombing the islamic state into oobl oblivion is not going to go over well with saudi arabia and turkey and you have a refuge...

Problem in the united states with mexicans coming through our southern border, helped by the mexican government, which looks the other way while these people smugglers, and drug smugglers do their dirty deeds down there. that was the context of mr. trump's remarks on mexicans. and obviously you know with the refugee problem in europe the trouble that's causing and that's the context of trump's comments on the syrian refugees, the muslim refugees. so, the comments are not there by trump to promote hate. it's his policy that he is trying to get out o. do you understand that? >> i would like you ...

Media. it's far more pervasive and frequent and talks in their language. >> and seth, phil is saying this is less immigration, more the strength of isis propaganda. but the idea of this -- these guys being refugees, this does speak to the fears of a lot of people that terrorists will exploit the refugee process to make it into the united states. how big of a problem is this, from your perspective? >> look, i think the data is indicative here. and that is, the largest percentage of people that are threatening the u.s. and threatening to commit terrorist attacks, there were 56 arrested in 2015 o...

What i think the overwhelming majority of americans think. we want to help, but this is dangerous. you're a bigot for saying this now? >> what's messed up, the most difficult thing is hillary clinton as secretary of state is to blame. president obama is to blame for this problem. and we could have easily solved this problem a year ago if we had leadership that allowed the u.s. military to destroy isis where they are in iraq and syria and we wouldn't have this refugee problem. >> one of my ongoing frustrations with washington is nobody learns from anything. every week, there's a story about min...