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Before the united states supreme court. i had that chance two occasions when i was attorney general of texas. this case was called the santa fe independent school district versus texas around galveston had a practice before football games of inviting a student to offer a prayer or a poem or maybe just an inspirational thought before the football game. they got sued by the aclu, and that case ended up going to the united states supreme court, where the held by a vote of 6-3 that student-led prayer was unconstitutional. that led the late chief justice rehnquist t make the statement that, rather ...

Toward religious expression, that the court now exhibits "hostility to all things religious in public life." we don't seem to have many limits on expressions of sex, violence, or crime in the public square, but we do seem to have compuctions about religious expression in the public square, and i wonder if you could just talk to us a little bit about your views, not pre-judging cases, but the sorts of considerations that you believe the founders, for example, had in mind, and of course as i'm asking you the question, i'm already thinking through my head here, i'm not asking you to pre-judge any...

So lemon endures, and academics have thoughts about various options and alternatives i know, and the justices themselves have expressed various insundery ideas. it's a bit of a challenge in this area. we struggle a lot. >> just as one citizen to another, let me tell you, i think it's a morass, and unfortunately the result is like chief justice rehnquist said, hostility to religious expression in the public square, and i think our country is poorer for it. let me, my final topic at least for this round, let me ask you a little bit about originalism and texturalism. our mutual friend, brian garn...