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Predominantly blue states including your fellow new jerseyians, your senator democrat bob menendez made the appeal of s.a.l.t. temporary for a few years as a possible compromise to get it into the bill. would you support that? >> listen, i'm with senator menendez. we reinstate s.a.l.t. for a couple of years and have to go back for more reinstatement after it, i'm fine with that. let me just tell you this, though, where we live here in northern new jersey, which is such a beautiful place, if law enforcement and teacher living together, make $200,000 a year. it's a very expensive place to live s...

Ida hits us so hard in my district. there are resources that'll help in crisis like that and obviously the gateway tunnel, that's 113 years old right now and needs to be replaced. we have so many things on the line here and not to mention the hardworking men and women and all those jobs. we have to get it done. i don't know why any small fraction of the democratic caucus would hold it up. we agreed in august to bring it to the floor in september. we have been holding this thing to vote on it at the end of september. and we are also by the way needs to make sure we get reconciliation done. ther...

Together 93 other times. but i think we'll get there, and i think the reason why is there will -- there is a shared value here. if you look at this build back better plan overall, it is so much about, you know, reinstating or tax fairness, making sure the economy is working for working families and that it's giving the type of support that allows working families to work and raise their children with dignity. now, in terms of the issues that senator manchin is raising, who we have great respect for, we think when you look at it, we will all agree that it is getting to the children that we want...

Them. >> i think what a lot of people don't get, especially the critics of the masks and other forms of protecting ourselves against this virus is that it was called a novel coronavirus because it was new and we were learning new things about it and earn willing about the science to protect and keep the virus from spreading. science changes as we get more data. could the communication from officials have been better? >> absolutely. i think the science communication and the risk communication certainly has been muddled. since, you know, the beginning of this pandemic, we are 18 months in now. a...

I think the risk communication, we're 18 months in now, and i think as you have stated, as science changes, we learn more. so it's not that science has lied. it's because we've learned more, and that's why we're changing any of these public health guidances or reinstating mask mandates because we're seeing high numbers of cases. so i think as we look at science and the evolution of science, you know, it's hard for just the general citizen to understand that. that's why we need to have good science communication. that just hasn't been happening at many different levels. i think we're doing a be...