To those born not white, and those born not white are going to be victims, and there is no way to break out of that mould using things like meritocracy, using things like proper institutions. and that is what i wholesale reject. right. you ve just used a phrase which is important. you referred to systemic racism. right. so do you feel, do you accept that there is systemic institutional racism in the united states in the united states of america? no. you do not. no. so you fly in the face of all the evidence, through the legal system, thejudicial, the policing and the penal systems, which clearly indicates there is systemic racism. well, that is not actually true. if you look at what systemic racism is, if you look, if there s any laws on the books that prevent non white americans from succeeding, there is none. in fact, if you look at laws on the books, the only laws on the books that actually dealt with race ....