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26. What did that come to mean . My understanding, ambassador sondlands use of that term was the three people in charge of ukraine policy during the summer where he, gordon sondland, ambassador volker and secretary perry. What did you come to, when did you come to learn about mr. Giulianis role and what do you consider his role to have been . I first heard about former mayor giulianis interest in ukraine in january of this year, that was a different phase than what happened during the summertime. Was it normal to have a person who is a privat citizen take an active role in foreign diplomacy . ...

Involved in any efforts to arrange for president zelensky to make a statement announces the two investigations that the president, president trump had talked about in the july 25th call? >> i was not and i would never participate in an arrangements to have them announce investigations. >> ambassador taylor, were you involved in any such efforts. >> no, sir. >> i want to show you a text of the exchange. this one between ambassador volker and andre yermak. the same texted ltz volker before the july 25th call. i'll read it. first text from august 10th. ambassador volker texts i agree with your ap...