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Of other things that donald trump said. i can see how a voter might think, ah, he doesn't really mean it, he doesn't really mean it. he doesn't really mean half of what he's saying up there. and if you're an obamacare recipient, you might want to think he doesn't mean that thing about obamacare. >> right. and republicans aren't the only ones who say that. we believed president obama when he ran for office that guantanamo would be closed during his administration, and i know all the people are now saying, mike, the republicans blocked him and all that. yes, but, you know, we're going to see, no...

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You showed at the beginning of the first segment. that's pure television. the way he makes this stuff up about we're going to get rid of obamacare, replace, there's nothing to replace it with. it's like he's sitting at the desk on "the apprentice" talking to meat loaf. he's either going to get tired of the job or screw up in some way, because a malignant narcissist who's also a sociopath, they filter everything through how is this going to be good for me and they end up breaking the law when they do that. so we don't know how this is all going to play out, but it's going to be bad for a lot of...

Mean, what are you to do then if you cannot pay for insurance? joining us now, michael moore, academy award-winning documentary film maker. his latest film is trump land. i read those quotes, and you've talked to them. you've been out there in trump land. >> it's not just michael moore in trump land, we're all there now, lawrence. >> that's right. you spoke to people like this voter i just quoted. here's somebody on obamacare, depending on obamacare, now seems to be realizing, donald trump real shly is going to rep obamacare with that republican congress. >> correct. and i think it's important...