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I think rick's point is right. we have to do something about everything. his point about long-term investment and infrastructure is absolutely right. in the short term, we need to do something to stimulate growth. i'm happy to show this to representative kantor, but in pennsylvania, as i said, we've got a billion for roads and bridges in the first stimulus. we tracked it. jobs produced on the construction site, jobs back at the factory. 24,600 jobs from that stimulus. >> rick, you and i have different views, but also respect each other. isn't a lot of this politics? when you have karl rove say...

To be passed. mr. kantor is dead wrong. in pennsylvania, the original stimulus bill, we got over a billion for roads and bridges, we repaired over 700 bridges with that money. 700 bridges. now, mr. kantor, that's not chopped liver. >> no, it's not. rick, let me ask you, when you look at the fact that according to a recent poll, 08%, 80% people want to see money spent on infrastructure. then something happened sunday that was really rare. we saw big labor and big business agree. let me show you something that was said by richard trumka of afl-cio, and tom done hue of the chamber of commerce, wh...