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The indivisible guide was a influential part of how democrats and liberals approached power and congress in particular after trump and the republicans won power in washington in the 2016 election. well, now that we've had the midterm elections and the democrats have taken back some of that power, they've taken control of the house. indivisible tonight has published version 2.0 of the indivisible guide. indivisible on offense, a practical guide to the new democratic house. joining us now is ezra levin, a coauthor of the indivisible guide. this is his first interview since the handbook was relea...

Unsecure server where she stowed government records that belonged to us and she -- what she did was deliberate and i think illegal. everyone kept telling me, no one cares about e-mails, no one cares about e-mails. i would say what happens if the fbi finds the 33,000 deleted e-mails? then your candidate is sunk. literally in the middle of the campaign. then you'll care about e-mails. these investigations are real. they're happening for a reason. there is a lot of smoke. there was a letter saying the russian government was trying to help trump sr. they're going to pursue this stuff because there...

Of, you know, flailing and vote-taking? >> well, if you look at it from john boehner's perspective, he has a conference that is a bit stubborn. they stick to their principles and they really don't budge. and he has to show them that, give them a chance to let out the steam, to pass these bills and then let them fail in the senate and then he can go back to the conference and say, look, we have tried. we have to try something else. obviously didn't work. >> jon: there is a huge desire on the part of many republic cans to deflate the president obama care proposal and that's what they're getting ...

Wanted something that was harder line to the budget committee. so given that tdynamic in the house, i'm wondering what the point of all the chitchat is other than, you know, chitchat is good, and maybe it helps for them all to get to know one another better. >> well, right. a few republic cans get a free dinner and lunch. they're not going to turn their noses up at that. >> exactly. >> let me read something from today "the new york times." "four months ago on the eve of bipartisan budget talks the president secretly invited five republicans to the white house for a moving screening of the star...

They don't want to vote on it continually. the in this case the democrats wouldn't mind issue coming up two to four months. reminding people they're for middle class taxpayers and republicans want to be voted for it once and be done with it. jon: doesn't this have democrats and harry reid on record it is bad idea to raise taxes in this economy. >> that is what they're saying. jon: that is profound achievement for republic cans, isn't it? >> to what? jon: to get democrats on record let's not raise taxes. let's keep them low? >> yes it is. but they're saying not raise them on middle class. there...