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This, that means something probably good is happening in politics. >> yes, yes. >> and kind of -- you are really seeing a division within the republicans, obviously, between those who are just very stuck in kind of a mentality towards their base that is obviously very destructive towards that of the broader nation. and a bunch of others who kind of figure a couple of other things, one, we would like to stick around here and maybe win some election. and two, perhaps pushing wound after wound on the economy is really not what folks sent us here to do. >> and ryan, the funny thing about this, thi...

Really not what folks sent us here to do. >> and ryan, the funny thing about this, this can end up being perceived as some sort of republican cave when they never should have taken a party position against raising the debt ceiling in the first place. so that doing the rational thing could actually simply look rational when they chose to do it. >> right, exactly. they -- if they had never made a big deal about this to begin with then they wouldn't be in this situation. now, obama kind of aided and abetted them because he wanted it to be the debt ceiling leverage that he kind of wanted this gran...

$250,000. >> this is what we have been talking about, the beginning of the republican cave. whether they will cave enough to get a deal before december 31, we don't know. this is unilateral surrender. >> obama wants more tax increases than cuts but members are the opposite. this is the fox news poll, which is the best way to deal with the country's budget problem, and 57 percent say cut the budget for goodness sake, cut your spending. 20 percent say tax increases. >> it will never happen. if all we get are huge tax increases and minimal spending cuts . >> because the republican party and speak...