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Back off and see if the republicans implode like last time? >> get involved. i was a state legislator for ten years. the only way you actually get things done is if you work together.y let's be adults and come together. let's have a solution. >> brian: kevin, are you siding with the corker contingent and the flake fans or are you with the president with the divide on display today? >> i am siding with lindsey graham -- he put it best tonight. look, they should work these problems out. we all hope the president keeps his tone appropriate but this is who the american people elected. we've got on...

Is on steroids. >> they've got a lot of problems. the 2020 primary. they've got no economic message beyond this big, big government. socialized everything. bernie sanders message. all of the energy in the party's right now. then there's the impotent rage, screaming at the sky as they will be doing in boston on the one year anniversary of donald trump selection. they've not gotten over the loss of 2016. they really haven't developed an economic message of their own yet. i think it will be a hard time in 2018 and 2020. republicans haven't gotten as much done as they probably should. they're stil...

He has spoken directly to house speaker paul ryan, as confirmed by the white house last week, about the government funding bill and it seems like there is something that, you know, ongoing discussions are occurring and a government shutdown is the last thing he wants to see happen. >> julian, what is the pontentil there is democratic support up for grabs at all for anything the president proposes? >> i don't think much support. the only support is with gorsuch. we no two democrats have supported that. on the spending, i think democrats are going to hold firm. you have a republican president ri...

Politics towards it and get in a position if you win the next election you'll have something to talk about without this pressey fis of shutting down the government. >> i don't know a lot of people would be opposed to that. it seems like an over-ton window approach. let's propose burning it down so to speak. not literally. if we can't get that, what best tactic help us move the bar down the field to our advantage? >> you've seen the house under speaker boehner vote 40 times to de-fund obamacare. the commitment is there. we have one house of one branch. we're doing everything we can. if we want ...

Toward it and to kind of get to a position where if you win the next election you'll have something to talk about without going to this precipice of shutting down government. >> and i don't know that a lot of people would be opposed entirely to that sort -- because it seems like an overton window kind of approach to me. let's propose just burning it down, so to speak, not literally, and then if we can't get that what best tactic helps us to at least move the ball a little further down the field to our advantage? >> you've seen the house under speaker boehner vote 40 times to defund or delay ob...