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The united states tried to do too much. >> as the war in afghanistan hits the rear view mirror this morning what lessons do you think we should take from this as a country, what lessons should future presidents take, admirals and generals like yourself take? >> i think richard hit a couple good points. but i'll use a line under them. one is a greek word, hubris, it's an arrogance and a certainty that you're right and the gods will find you. i think we went into afghanistan, as we did into vietnam, too much in our own image and thus we built, for example, an afghan army that looked like a -- ki...

On this erdogan confronted joe biden personally in a meeting demanding the return of gulen and biden said we have due process here, he deserves a hearing. there is a lot of tension there. this is all against the backdrop of the incoming administration with a lot of prize for erdogan initially from donald trump. richard, thank you very much for that. of course anne thompson in berlin. for more on these likely terror attacks and who could be behind them we bring in sean henry, former assistant director of the fbi and msnbc cyber security and counter terrorism analyst. sean, let's first talk ab...

I spoke with the ntsb. richard hit it on the head there. officially the bea, the french equivalent of the ntsb will be leading this investigation for all the reasons he late out but, still, now that we know two americans were on board the ntsb says they are paying close attention. they will have access to any information they are curious about or want to know about because they do have this increased interest. as far as the avionics there may be we don't know all the details of what may have been manufactured by u.s. companies at this point but that too, raises the interest level for the ntsb....

This new area. the downside, wolf, unfortunately, this new area is vast. to put it in perspective, the old area was 850,000 square kilometers. >> they have a huge search ahead of them. richard, hold on for a moment. our aviation analyst is with us. you have gone through this report. peter, what's your bottom line take? >> richard hit it on the head. this is a report that could have come out months ago. it gives us some real information that we have speculated about, but now confirms it. i think as richard indicated, give them three scenarios. one where the plane from the last primary radar hea...

And an editor in large for the atlantic. good evening, gentlemen. you hear the reports there. steve, start with you. richard hit it on the head. we had a debaten this nation about not going into syria as ugly as it was, going in, would be uglier. going in and frying to do air strikes. to support, maliki here, would complicate the spillover from syria. steve? it could become messier. i do think -- spoke to officials moments ago. wanted to emphasize to me that all options are on the table other than boots on the ground. and with a strong intonation that air strikes, drone strikes, another dif me...