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rickia boyd. maybe we differ on what truth means. >> but maybe you're talking about anecdotes as opposed to statistics. are you saying the majority of police statements in the u.s. are not true public statements press releases, et cetera? >> what i'm saying is the police are killing people and they're saying it's justified in every case in a way that it just isn't. this is a conversation about state violence. so when i think about walter scott, the police gave an account that was untrue and we would not have known unless there was a video. >> right. that was very clear-cut. >> and i would say there are many other case. freddie gray's another one. the way the police mobilized to respond to his death was really different until we got a video. so we challenge the police narratives because we have reason to challenge, because we've been lied to. >> it sounds like you see a double standard of sorts on race. i want to see if you agree with that sentiment. because what we saw in waco earlier in the week the coverage of this biker gang -- i don't even know what to call it. the coverage of this biker gang madness that happened in waco there, wasn't the use of the word thug in the media coverage.