Racism. when you hear someone -- an african-american talk about an incident that happened to him that involves race with a noose around your neck, automatically, you feel a kinship there. you want to believe them. you want to stand for them. that happened with so many people with jussie. if it's true that he lied, it's just such a gut punch. it's really, really ridiculous to stoke those racial fears and homophobic fears at any time, especially now. >> if he lied, it was to you personally. what would you want to say to him if you could speak to him again? >> i just want to know the truth. i jus...