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. >> the risk is really very small to children. you're 18 times more likely to drown if you're aged 1 to 5 than to die of covid. i think putting it in some sort of perspective for children, which is that it's not that serious a disease at all, it's like a bad cold. >> so kids don't have the option of protecting themselves with a vaccine right now. what's your response to people who say -- i'm not sure his words were just let it rip, but what do you say to that? >> yeah. you know, i think and we talk about this a lot actually, which is the vaccines are safe and effective. children are at less r...

And i think when our experts have looked at the data that's there that is publicly available and sort of what we know about -- i think about it as the guardrails. the type of data we need to be able to make this decision. you know, we think that it's pretty close to being there and we would really urge them to take a look at it. but your point is exactly right, that the system is built to be more cautious with the young kids and it is and it's doing that but it's we think time for us to approach this with a little more urgency. >> i've got to ask you because there are some people who are sayin...

Wearing a mask in an elevator which at last check is probably not a good thing. you can't make this stuff up. he will likely survive, kayleigh, if cnn could give jeffrey tuben a happy endings. >> harris: whoa. >> joe: anyone with get by there. >> harris: you are like the last barge in a fireworks show. last 15 minutes, let it rip. the colors and music don't even match. that was amazing. >> joe: thank you. >> kayleigh: that was a nice walk down memory lane and, yes, my bad it's the 9:00 p.m. hour that has remained silent. apologies for not knowing the cnn lineup i'm watching tucker and hannity ...

Is living your life and getting on with life even though there are obstacles and learning to live with obstacles. i certainly understand that. in arguing against masks and social distancing, you write, by getting rid of these barriers, we can accelerate by allowing to it take the helm. you write, the most potent incentive for vaccination is to be brutally frank, a sharp rise in mortality rates. the more people know someone who has suffered and died, the more they are likely to take measures. in other words, call their bluff. you went on to say, let it rip. doesn't the history of this pandemic ...

I have resorted to playing concerts on youtube's and dancing around which is in the same no it's not. >> i hosted a music interview show, i love music and i think sometimes people forget that the live events and concert industry got absolutely decimated the last 14 months. it's $30 billion was lost in revenue so it's not the roaring '20s anymore, it's the roaring 2020s. garth brooks announcing huge stadium tours, 70,000 people in july, lollapalooza over in chicago. >> neil: are you worried about that? everyone packed and really close? >> no. >> let it rip, let's do it,