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General miller's recommendation to the president. can you share the process and who conveyed general miller's rm dags? and was that recommendation delivered to both president trump at the time and also to president biden? >> there is a process for delivering recommendations from commanders in the field. i was part of that process. while i've been clear i won't give you my recommendation, i've given you my view, which you can draw your own conclusions from. and my view is that 2,500 was an appropriate number to remain and if we went below that number, in fact, we would probably witness a collap...

0 >> thank you, senator. you're right, the tempo upped significantly, the taliban continued to make advances. our entire chain of command, myself, the chairman, general mckenzie, routinely engage the afghan leadership to encourage them to solidify their defensive plans, to make sure they were providing the right logistics to their troop, and further stiffen their defenses. to no avail. to compound that, president ghani continued to make changes in the leadership of the military, and this created further problems for the afghan security forces. >> mr. secretary, i don't mean to interrupt you bu...