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Silence us. but we will not let them. >> president trump speaking last night at an event for veterans in washington d.c. we're going to have more about that conversation with the folks in that room with the two guests i have next. liz plank and robert trainum. great to see both of you. liz, the obvious strategy for the president in that line, do you think that it's working for him? he got applause, an ovation. >> i think it shows what the president's priorities are which is gtl, golf, tweet and lie. the thing with twitter -- >> gtl, that's a new acronym i need to write down. >> popularized by ...

Walked up to the beehive an has hit the beehive. now, all of a sudden, you see all of these bees swanning here. and now we may get stung here. it appears we haven't thought this through. however, i cannot stress this enough. there are people who come into this country that abuse the refugee laws that want to harm us. so, i believe the president is trying to make sure that those type of individuals do not come into this country. i applaud him for that. however, this needs to be thought through. these are people's lives. this is really, really serious stuff. >> and these numbers do not support n...

Robert trainum. to that similar to what jessica has brought up, will we see a reduction of what is typically 80,000 refugees from around the world coming to america. >> it appears that way, about 100,000 refugees have come to america. under the executive order that i've just read that will probably go down to 50,000. this is a larger question for america. one, it's a constitutional question. number two it's a moral question. we're better than this. we've already learned from our mistakes from which jessica mentioned a few moments ago of which we've done this in the past. the caveat about this,...

Bunch of different rules are followed. so in the coming weeks, we're going to have to figure out what that means. >> all three of you, thank you so much. we'll have to leave it there. great conversation based on what we're watching on the left-hand screen. the breaking news of those at jfk, jessica, robert, jenna, all three of you, i really do appreciate it. a live look at jfk airport, by the way, as i was talking about, the chants continue. this after 12 people were detained as they tried to enter the united states. we just heard from congressman jerrold nadler about the 11 people still detai...

Sean spicer on "today" a little earlier addressing it. >> other countries need to be put on notice, he will not allow them to undermine our safety and sovereignty but going to match other countries and take action. >> take action. with me now, two msnbc political analysts, former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, along with robert trainum. former bush/cheney administration advisor. what's going on with the president-elect today? >> good morning and happy holidays to you. i'm not sure. i think what the president-elect is doing, flexing his muscle and sending a signal he's not to be played with....