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Believe that most moderates in the party think they cannot win in the general election. we welcome elizabeth warren if she can get there, but i think most people in the moderate party want to stay away from that type of progressive candidate in the general election. so i think that's what obama's message was, and i agree with robin, i think it was a pseudo-ene doorsment, if you will, of vice president biden. gillian: you guys agreed, so we can end the segment -- [laughter] leland: watch football, drink beer. gillian: robin, so let's talk about bloomberg for a second. >> yeah. gillian: the comm...

To be rooted in reality. the average american doesn't think we have to completely tear down the system and remake it. is so to react to this, we bring in our a-team political panel. we've got democratic strategist robin birow and republican strategist eric beech. gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us today. robin, to you first. so president obama kind of saying, you know, the american people, by and large, don't want a revolution, they just want, you know, incremental steps that will make their lives better. maybe the most pragmatic thing he's ever said. >> absolutely. and at his heart, ...