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You can say it is crazy, but i need to understand the psychosis of the individual to understand why they might vote someone in order for me to reach them. but if you're talking about how to reach them, i remember in 2016 telling hillary clinton to her face, you have a black male problem. where you're black male surrogates? what about cbc? i said, no. i why? i said where the black. many must send black men talking to black men. because we have a different conversation with one another, that is their failure. and so if you don't do that, then you are going to lose. stacy has a great platform, bu...

One of, these you get a box of chocolates and you're like yak. that's. him he's like humans come from aids, why are we still not a? whatever herschel auger. come on in. i -- floated over to china and -- and then it was a recycling situation. what brother? i don't know this man is talking about. >> black men are voting for -- and he is on the same ticket, roland. >> but, again they are not on the same ticket because you have to know when you break down these races, you have to break down where depended voters are going in terms of who is supporting kim, who supported. warnock you get all that g...

Leading in his race against herschel walker. but stacey abrams is behind governor kent. abrams has says, if blackmon vote for her she will win. but, the math ain't really mounting their. and i know roland has a lot of thoughts on. that i want to bring into the conversation cliff albright. he's the cofounder of the black matters black votes matter. fund and fending partner hit strategies. cliff, i want to start with you since you are on the grounds there in georgia. we will get to that debate between warnock and walk around in a second. but just being on the, ground cliff, what do you make of? ...

Roland, this circuit of appeal may be dead in the water with these trump appointed judges, as highlights more than ever the importance of midterms and the need for democrats to put their own judges on the bench. the opaque piece are doing a better job of prioritizing the courts. your take on? that's >> absolutely what you're dealing, with a look at donald trump wants to extend >> this as far as you possibly can. that is what it is all about. he fights every single legal challenge by thinking this when he is going to lose. remember the, supreme court is already ruling on the safety privilege. s...

That black and care. about and roland mentioned some of. then we can but economics, economic stability, is entrepreneurs. we care about police violence. so, she has that in her agenda but part of this isn't, we have to be honest, isn't going to be about her and her efforts and her policies to address these issues. there's a conversation that we have got to have. terrence named, it that march. and it doesn't have to be a huge margin and. but that margins can be -- >> there's a lot of heartbreak. and we're gonna go to, break but i'm putting you guys in the. spot we're gonna wrap the segment. but...