i discovered that i did not ever ask you some of your family, i know your spouses, and you have children. so, tell us, i begin with you, dale. i am married to debbie, witherspoon. she is on sabbatical right now. working on her doctorate of ministry, i think, in the area of engaging in the face of the public square. i have two sons, teenagers. wesley is a sine teenager. and his brother younger brother, justice, is a freshman. i also have a brother and a sister that live in the sacramento area and they cousin that lives here in oakland. i am a nato san franciscan. great to have weston with us, he s in the audience. good to have you with us. and jim? karen and i, my wife have been married 41 years, we have three adult kids. erin, who is a physical therapist, kristen, who is a registered nurse, and ethan, who is completing his program to be a journeyman electrician and the elevated county electrical worker s union, and we have four grandsons. daschle dayton henry and huds