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Second catholic president, today's meeting with pope francis wasn't just political. it was clearly personal too. in the senate, on the campaign trail, and in the white house, biden has really leaned into his faith even as his views on abortion put him at odds with some catholic leaders in the u.s. ruby kramer has written extensively on the president and his faith. ruby, you've reported on the president's clash with the catholic church in the u.s. over abortion. the president said he didn't talk about abortion today and dodged a question about the u.s. conference of bishops. >> reporter: mr. pr...

Ruby, i know you know the background about how the president views this particular issue. explain it. >> it's just one of the most interesting, complex aspects of his presidency, really, because biden is someone who can't be understood without talking about catholicism, the way he was raised. he loved the institution of the catholic church, the nuns that taught him at school, going to family mass. every other word, sometimes it feels like, is some bidenism that has to do with catholic social doctrine or a saying his dad told him. yet when he's pressed on these issues, like you saw in the video...

Yearbook photo was revealed and suddenly the news cycle changed and northam has remained the top story ever since. i would argue was mostly overshadowed by the news involving northam. let's talk about these contrasting stories and what they mean. the media critic for the baltimore sun, april somers and ruby kramer. i want to get into a number of stories about the democratic field. first, this idea, david, that we are talking about a number of history-making candidates, it is incredible to see the number of women running, number of people of color running and yet i feel this is being taken for ...

But policy still has to stay front and center. ruby, thank you. what the heck happened at that ralph northam press conference and why reporters didn't find his yearbook before now. much more in a moment. absolutely not paying r card, bm an annual fee. discover has no annual fees. really? yeah. we just don't believe in them. oh nice. you would not believe how long i've been rehearsing that. no annual fee on any card. only from discover.

>> now, hillary clinton has addressed the reports via twitter writing that he was dismayed when the harassment occurred but offered no apology. with me now, katherine rampell, and ruby kramer. ladies, thanks for coming by. robb ruby, just starting with you here. all of this detail that you got from this complaint dating back to the campaign, you laid it out on buzzfeed. he wrote and keep in mind this is a man married with kids at the time. i haven't met anyone as amazing as you are in a very long time. this is to this young stabber. the whole package. you have an internal and external poise an...