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Look, here's where i'm starting from and i think in dealing with any constitutional right, you have to start by saying the burden is on the government. when i jihadist blows up a schoe all muslims because of the active one. i'll be with that. i agree with that. how come the same rule doesn't apply to the hundred million people in america who choose to exercise their constitutional right? i think it does. i would also make the point that if you really want to do something for public safety with respect to guns, fix the current database, the current database, do you know where we get the informa...

Privately the gun he used to kill in odessa despite the fact that he had severe mental health issues. some people want to close that. they want you to have to produce that paperwork even in private sale. are you against that? >> i listened to the exchange between the two members of congress, ms. ocasio-cortez and i forget -- congressman crenshaw. >> crenshaw, good man. i listened to their exchange. i would remind both of them that just because we passed more laws, that doesn't mean that they're going to be followed and therefore reduce gun violence. let me tell you a secret. criminals will big...

Are really not set up to deal with the claims that people need to make. >> all right. what is the net effect of this action that the government is taking? what will actually change as a result of what president trump wants to do? >> that remains to be seen to some extent. you know, i'll make the comment that, you know, the proposed rule doesn't even exclude unaccompanied children. so just to connect for your viewers to, you know, the scenes that we've witnessed coming out of the clint border patrol station, the very cruel treatment of child asylumseekers. this could have an impact on children ...

>> it is just hysteria intended to scare women and scare policymakers into thinking planned parenthood deserves money which they don't. america does not believe contraception is equivalent to abortion. this is just an attempt to divide those two things and we have to go back to the reality that all this money will flow to family-planning programs that are willing to abide by this, understand what family-planning is and isn't. heather: $60 million in federal funding would go to planned parenthood -- >> this proposed rule doesn't take one penny from family-planning funding, it redirects to holis...

This is intended to scare women and policy makers into thinking planned parenthood deserves money. america doesn't believe that contraception is the equivalent of an abortion. this is an attempt to divide those two things. we have to go back to the reality that all of this money will flow to family planning programs and could what it is and isn't. >> shannon: in this cut 50 to $60-million in federal funding will go to planned parenthood and has? >> exactly. but what is critical this rule doesn't take one penny away from family planning funding. it redirects that funding to health care clinics ...