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Acorn take on the Welsh York Acorn ARLC Under-13s were a "credit to the club and true ambassadors of the sport" on a groundbreaking tour of Wales. They first fought a fine game against NPT Steelers from Port Talbot. They thought a fantastic comeback had earned them a draw, only to be told the referee had miscounted and the Welsh team had won. But they also discovered NPT were an older team. On the next day they played a challenge match against Blackwood Bulldogs U13s, half of which was under rugby union rules, half under rugby league - and Acorn triumphed in style 40-16.

On both sides. >> but, chris, if jim vandehei is correct, then you're going to see an eruption from the right unlike anything you have seen right now. if they start to believe that romney is just rolling them, that he's just saying that he'll govern as a conservative, then he's going to have an even bigger rebellion on his hands because that's not what he's telling them even with the ryan pick. he's promising them that once he becomes president, their principles will be actionable in governance. if that's not true, i think he's got an even bigger problem on his hands. >> jim, i think the probl...

How he's going to deal with all the kick the can policies that expire at the end of the year, the tax breaks, the spending cuts that kick in, the medicare doc fix. this isn't make believe. it's real stuff, and we have two candidates who don't talk at all about it. on both sides. >> but, chris, if jim vandehei is correct, then you're going to see an eruption from the right unlike anything you have seen right now. if they start to believe that romney is just rolling them, that he's just saying that he'll govern as a conservative, then he's going to have an even bigger rebellion on his hands beca...

Right now and i think even the reaction this week to his statement was seen as an act of desperation. that is the way you cover a candidate that is losing. the romney campaign has to do something to turn around because right now it is not helping them. >> chris: bill, less than a minute left. i guess what confuses me is when pecked ryan as his running mate i tout that was a statement he would come forward with a bold affirmative positive agenda and be the candidate of reform and yet he has after naming him and getting a little bump in the polls and people getting excited he hasn't capitalized ...

Race and one speech, one convention won't change that. megyn: have you shown any bounce? >> we show a modest bounce. president obama is doing 3 points worse. romney doing 3 points better. but the race is very close. it's where it's been the last three months. we have shown governor romney consistently ahead. right now he's up 4 points. that's a very modest bounce. megyn: steve hayes what do you think it? >> part of the reason is mitt romney picked paul ryan earlier than is traditional for a typical republican nominee, so you saw something of a bounce after the ryan pick. if you look at the bef...