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101-year existence in the nfl. there's never been a black majority owner. you know, as you mentioned, carl nassif is the first out, active nfl player, and given the things he said about michael sam, that this is -- i don't want to say maybe a common attitude in the nfl but it certainly is an accepted attitude. >> you say it's a self-assumption and i am quoting you now that there are a lot of john grudens in the nfl. a safe assumption, you say. you say it's a safe assumption that there are a lot of john grudens in the nfl. how pervasive do you think that this is throughout the league? >> well, ...

Bolton there. but glenn's right, if you're not going to come forward and be truth and transparent, we'll just assume you were going to hurt the ultimate person, which is president trump. >> is that a safe assumption to make, though, as the democrats are trying to gather evidence? because we are dealing with an administration here, including the president himself, who routinely say things on the record publicly and then routinely do not want to do the same in a setting like a hearing or a more sort of stratified setting. >> well, is there a fear that maybe later on during the senate trial -- be...

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We think you had a bias and acted on it. and that's pretty clear. so i'm going to just ask one series of questions very quickly, if i could. you did a number of texts, all of the texts that were presented to us as far as i know came from your government phone, correct? >> i believe that to be the case, yes. >> so you've made no text available from your private phone, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> did you ever text on your private phone? >> i did. >> did you ever text lisa page on your private phone? >> i did. >> did you ever text lisa page on your private phone similar texts to the on...

Everybody. they have been good about keeping things secret when they want to keep them secret. >> true. i would say there are distinctions but fair point. i assume there will be a next chapter. >> safe assumption. a massive winter storm slams the northeast. there's now record-breaking cold here. we have the forecast for you next. ♪ when heartburn hits... fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue... and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum tum tum tum... smoothies... only from tums