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Investigation. on the one hand in those statements, he looks nonchalant, innocent, saying, look, of course i'll talk to them. i want to clear the air, i want to get my side of the story out. at the same time, as michael was just discussing, you have a problem where now it's not so much he'll be brought in with the attempt to get him to perjure himself, but simply the case that the special counsel's investigation has talked to hope hicks, sam none berg, general flynn, they have had talked to all these people. they have them all on record and they're going to compare statements they maid to stat...

Nunberg enmeshed himself among so many powerful d.c. media figures is because unlike many people in the trump orbit in the white house, he understands trump on kind of a gut level. one of the claims that sam made during his media blitz on monday was that he was the one who came up with the idea of having trump build a wall on the southern border, and also with the idea of a muslim ban. i have reason to believe that's true. that sam is the embodiment of president trump's id. if you want to understand trump, pay attention to sam andway he does, how he frames things. that's part of the reason i t...

Navid, listen to what he said. it doesn't lead to the president. two questions. who mietd it lead to? and what is the there there he is talking about? >> well, this is a man who went in and said i think they have something on the president cart carter page colluded with the russians. there is a question what does mueller have on the president and where nunberg fits in. i think betsy is right, he is someone that graph tats and loves the spotlight of the media. i don't know that nunberg will shed much light on either of the first questions. he also said he didn't have communication with carter p...

Seen? >> what our steel workers wants is fair trade. we're not afraid to have trade with other countries. by just want a level playing field. we produce an ounce of steel more efficiently than any country in the world. but you can't compete with countries that are cheating, that have excess capacity and then they dump the steel over here below the cost of production. that is in violation of our trade laws. if we're going to trade with these countries we want a level playing field. if we have that, we'll compete with the other countries around the world when it comes to making steel. and that's...

Is going to jail, sam? >> they are not going to send know jail. you know what mr. mueller if he wants to send me the jail, he can send me to jail. and then i'll laugh about it. and i'll make a bigger spectacle than i am on your tv show right now. >> okay. that was sam nunberg earlier this week ari melber vowing not to --. the former trump campaign aide had quite a week as he made the rounds on cable news. >> are you worried about getting arrested? >> i i think it would be funny if they arrested me. >> so carter paige was colluding with the russians. >> yeah i believe he was colluding with the ...