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Conversation once again, karine jean-pierre. she is affairs officer for move on and an alum from the obama campaign and the obama white house. and at the big board on our southern peninsula is steve kornacki, who has been crunching the numbers as he is fond of doing on one elizabeth warren. >> well, you were just talking to her right there. how could elizabeth warren win the democratic nomination. we talk about she has moved up nationally, second, maybe third with biden out in front. she and sanders sort of second and third. one answer for how warren could win the nomination, win iowa we showe...

She is chief public affairs officer for move on and an alum of the obama campaign and the obama white house. and at the big board on our southern peninsula is steve kornacki, who has been crunching the numbers as he is fond of doing on one elizabeth warren. >> well, you were just talking to her right there. how could elizabeth warren win the democratic nomination. we talk about she has moved up nationally, second, maybe third with biden out in front. she and sanders sort of second or third. one answer for how warren could win the nomination, win iowa we showed you this poll a few minutes ago. ...

I'll keep some of my moderate credentials and that could be pretty powerful if he stays there. >> and yet they're hiding them a lot. why are they doing that? >> i think that they're letting others fight it out, because on the campaign trail, everybody goes after the front runner. he's the front runner, so they say let them fight it out a little bit and let's see what they get and not expose the candidate. >> you're moderate. there's a lot of moderate democrats out there. you wouldn't know it watchingdn the media by the way. what would they do if there's a bernie sanders nominee? would they aba...

Fast, i will keep some of my moderate credentials and that could be pretty powerful if he stays there. >> they are hiding him a lot, what are they doing? >> they are letting others fighting in and out campaign trail, everybody goes after front runner, he's the front runner, let them fight it out, let's see what they get, let's not expose the candidate. >> you're a centrist, you're moderate, a lot of moderate democrats out there, you wouldn't know it watching the media by the way, what would they do if there's a bernie sanders sanders nominee, would they abandon the party as they did last time?...

Moderate credentials and that could be pretty powerful if he stays there. >> they are hiding him a lot, what are they doing? >> they are letting others fighting in and out campaign trail, everybody goes after front runner, he's the front runner, let them fight it out, let's see what they get, let's not expose the candidate. >> you're a centrist, you're moderate, a lot of moderate democrats out there, you wouldn't know it watching the media by the way, what would they do if there's a bernie sanders sanders nominee, would they abandon the party as they did last time? >> i don't know there's a sa...