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Trump wishes for him to do. but because there have been some concerns, because there has been some unorthodox statements that have been made, because, you know, the world has been what it is. i mean, the united states leadership and the world has been much lesser than it's been in the past. there's been a lot of consternation about a lot of things. the current administration, where does the future administration go, how do they feel about alliances around the world. what people are going to be looking for is how is he going to influence the president, even though at the end of the day he may n...

That is the reason you have preclearance, and that is the reason that you can't rely on the district court or the circuit courts to rule. >> mr. chairman, i voted a few years ago for the voting rights act extension for 25 years. it included preclearance in it. we all knew at that time that the supreme court would probably take up a case before long that would have wrestled with the question of whether there is a sufficient basis for the extraordinary remedy of requiring only a few states in the country to have every, even ministerial act like moving a voting precinct to seek the permission of ...

Who absolutely wanted to see that crime solved and prosecuted. is that accurate, senator sessions? >> i think it is, yes. that's exactly what i intended to do. it actually occurred before i became united states attorney. wrong group of people had been indicted in state court that complicated matters. case was not making the kind of progress it needed to make. and, so, we had a discussion. and we invited civil rights division attorneys, burt glenn and barry kowalski, both of which were exceptionally fine, and along with assistant thomas figures in my office, broke that case and i thought they d...

Unsustainable. >> now, north carolina is one of the states that would have been covered by preclearance, was it not? >> north carolina states would be. >> it would have been. >> i would just suggest that section 2 allows all the remedies, and that's what i suppose they filed the action under in this case. it just not a preclearance question, and that preclearance policy is intrusive. and as the supreme court has said -- and i didn't mean that in any pejorative way. i was asked, do you believe it's intrusive, is that correct? i said it is intrusive. but the voting -- it said this is 1986. but t...

From interfering like this in the future, beyond obviously improving our cyber security? >> well, obviously that's it. we've got to protect ourselves. but, look, you have no -- jake, we've talked about scenarios as far as where this can go. and again, it's all about hardening. you can think about a case, for instance, where jake tapper, reporter, happens to be giving an individual a hard time and, so, they get into your computer which is easily done and put materials in there that discredit you and cause you all of a sudden not to be someone that people want to listen to any more, or your repu...