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Them the real estate. the first thing you have to do if you're organizing a state for any campaign is have names of people. names of people who are going to vote and names of people who will come and spend their time knocking on doors and doing things. and what a campaign like the sb-5 campaign in ohio did was you create this database of people, the kinds of people that you can reach out to who are going to be the people who show up on a saturday morning at 8:00 a.m. for the price of a cup of coffee are going to go out on an october day and knock on doors. strangers' doors and tell them you ne...

Will come and spend their time knocking on doors and doing things. and what a campaign like the sb-5 campaign in ohio did was you create this database of people, the kinds of people that you can reach out to who are going to be the people who show up on a saturday morning at 8:00 a.m. for the price of a cup of coffee are going to go out on an october day and knock on doors. strangers' doors and tell them you need to go out and do this and vote. so that doesn't go away. you build each of those every time you do a campaign. that organizational strength is a building block that you can step on. w...

And i thought that was pretty telling for the year. >> maria? >> i think it's one of the civil rights issues. i think we're living in a historic time. >> and also gay marriage. we told a bold step. the american people decided that was something at the forefront for them. >> i would say probably the main thing that happened was the changing of the discussion from deficit to income inequality. i think the defeat of sb-5 in ohio, after the sweep the tea party and republican governors did, i think protests from top to bottom, including international was probably the spotlight of the year. okay. ...

Kasich in ohio, 52%. florida rick scott, 58%. these are the disapproval numbers. disapproval. now, these guys were elected, went straight at breaking unions, straight at collective bargaining, and the people rebelled. in ohio, we were able to when i was involved -- that's why i say we -- to deal with sb 5, turning that around. now you have a recall. >> uh-huh. >> is this sending a message, jon, to these right-wing that you can win an election but we're not going to let you turn the policies used against the american people? >> i think it's sending a loud and clear message. obviously what happe...

To be mindful of the rhetoric and language we used. president obama gave a speech about the tragedy. remember that? surely, the day after miss giffords goes public and speaks for the first time, nobody in the white house would use any violent rhetoric. right? >> you fired the first shot. you fired the first shot. it's not about barack obama or joe biden. it's whether or not middle class people will be put back in the saddle again because they're the ones that make this country move. >> brian: okay. so much for forget about the violent rhetoric. firefighters were pleased sb-5 was defeated. you ...