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Welcome to the Hudson Institute im senior fellow and we are here to talk today about today in america and hightech warfare chris is a former staff director for the Senate Armed Services committee the senior policy advisor for senator john mccain and previously held other positions in government right now the chief Strategy Officer for those for the military and department of Homeland Security we can talk about that as a go through the interview but they give for being with us today. Its great to be here. What led you to do this book obviously this is something you have encountered over the yea...

A situation of uncertainty where we can not calculate all risk but where we can know things and also to relax a little bit and do reasonable decisions or it decisions that proof fundamentally and this again in the context of for instance masses of numbers of ventilators were bought for corona virus that it turns out we dont need why are we more scared of what is less likely to kill us the key problem you know society is that we all have learned how to read and write but not to become risk literate at least to understand the numbers so the numbers that made us feel the numbers of infections or ...

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Skype from berlin is director of the Harding Center of a risk literacy professor good. Thanks so much pride for coming on to as i say were going to all be watching our politicians tell us about the fact that they are following the science how should we interpret what those politicians tell us in the in the context of risk and literacy i think it would be really important that people themselves think about the risks to get into or only with their behavior im also not sure that politicians know whats the best thing to do this is a situation of uncertainty where we can know kind of Political Risk...

A legal system of its own it imposes moral code upon the Economic System in terms of honesty and terms of distribution of wealth but here we have a system that 49 years later has become rotten the institutions have melted and disintegrated and we have people like our own senator here in North Carolina senator richard burr who was caught not only dumping a whole bunch of sharers 2000000. 00 worth after he secret inside information about the coronavirus but it turns out its even worse when senator richard burr not only engaged in obvious Insider Trading on the coronavirus after receiving intelli...