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I think he just decided after nearly 31 years, it was time to step down. >> let me, jonathan, let me ask you how his politics worked. it's implicit in what pete was saying. somehow he managed to be a libertarian on court. he's -- he has fought for the right to avoid any undue burden for a woman choosing abortion, for the essential liberty of this country when it came to sexual orientation and gender and sex, the whole thing. he seemed to understand that that it was wronging to have sod dommy laws. nobody had any hostility towards him. like scalia dumping on him, sometimes scalia did question h...

Page, "usa today" washington bureau chief. gene, talk about so anybody that couldn't get it yet, the importance of number five seat on the united states supreme court. >> well, justice kennedy was the swing vote. and everybody understands that. he was a conservative identified as a consecutivetive but he voted with the progressive side of the court on a number of issues. he was the leading voice on the court actually for lgbt rights in a very real sense. and he played that crucial role in a court otherwise evenly divided. so the gorsuch seat replaces scalia that's a conservative for a conserva...

To play "hardball." >> can can you push this off till after the elections so we can take the matter to the people. >> we have to fight. listen, unlike merrick garland where there were eight months left in that term, there is four months. we're four months away from an election. one-third of the united states senate practically is up for election. the decision that we make is going to have generational impact. and the american people should be able to weigh in on who will be this in this position on the united states supreme court. let's remember, chris, this is not like gorsuch where gorsuch w...