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people were genuinely freaked out inside the west wing. people who are now downplaying the hearings, they were freaked out that day because of what the committee laid out last night. nothing that he saw changed trump's perspective of what happened. >> they were shocked when they heard that, shocked it exists, that the recordings of it existed, and it was just some of the compelling testimony we heard last night. and in some cases laid out some new details. >> also words from the former president himself, including he said, mike pence let me down. those were the last five words that a...

Know of was rudy giuliani, and that really underscores the point, that day, he was not the commander in chief of the u.s. armed forces, he was the commander in chief of the insurrectionists and that's how he viewed himself. >> he thought it was going to work. that's ultimately -- he was waiting to see if it was going to work. at the end of the night, he said mike pence let me down. >> yes. >> he thought it was going to work. they thought the mob was going to break mike pence or cause the congress to delay and so that's what i got out of it yesterday. and then i think the clip that just played ...