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Think depends how the president comes out. the first today in his retort, a way to hold the base in place. >> carol, you've done amgt lot reporting. back to the trump tower meeting to unpack things. do you get the sense steve bannon e knows something here? >> he knows a lot. he was ob usiously was there. >>io obviously there in the aftermath as this has come up. he's score settling. everyone knows how much he hates jared kushner. >> this is focused on that? right? >> in ways obsessed with him and continues to go after him and ivanka and parts of the book he talk, jared's like, what happened to...

Effort was dead, i thought the repeal only effort was dead, the president said it's going to get better at lunch today. does he know what's going listen to? >> well, as has been famously written the power of the presidency is the power to persuade so he's going to persuade but he can't do much more than that. congress has their own dynamic, the senators have their own differences. the differences might have been sharpened, there may have been some score settling or infighting going on. there's a whole election cycle that a third of the members have to worry about but i don't know if the presid...

Policy? this came yesterday, an all-encompassing story in the middle of a pitched health care battle where mitch mcconnell are trying to cobble together a coalition of republicans to pass this bill. does this have a real world impact on republicans and which way they may go here? >> even before this tweet republicans in washington were talking about missed opportunities with donald trump when it comes to the platform that he has. as president, you always have the bully pulpit. trump has this unique ability and command and capture the country's attention but he uses it for score settling, for g...

Targeting conservative groups, and the media accepted that all the evidence was destroyed, the director could take the foist, but conservatives felt like justice wasn't being served. it's a problem -- >> let jonathan jump in. donnell filibusters you have got evening on three different tangents. >> it's a nice trip -- you understand that democrats should be concerned. >> no, all americans need to be concerned. >> you're right. >> about the russians interfering and possibly undermining our election. >> yeah, but jonathan, you're right. >> the idea that the president of the united states doesn't ...

Leaving that on the floor. >> i just think that personal conflicts are more interesting to voters than watching him channel straight change. that's what reality tv is, that's core of reality tv, score settling. trump likes to be compelling. that was part of the teleprompter speech. he planned to say those things for the first 16 minutes of the speech where he was criticizing the press and clinton and the electoral process. so perhaps they think that conflict is truly affecting voters. >> does he get pennsylvania where he's down? >> you have to wonder if there was any voter, one single voter wh...