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Father of a current boy scout and a current cub scout, that the scouting organization has really begrappling with what is its role going to be in the 21st century lifestyle? it's seen some drop in enrollment. they've been making a series of steps to try to ease the path into participation. just last year, for example, they reduced a lot of the requirements necessary to earn ranks for cub scouts to become a wolf or bear because it was seen as too much and parents and families that were busy with soccer and other organizations were kind of dropping out. and think is another move making it so mor...

Please don't be too nice. >> so when you have a situation like that, andy card, how do you go in -- even says he doesn't suffer fools. how do you go in and you bring some order when the disorder starts at the top? >> first of all, those two statements at two very different groups were completely outrageous and completely inappropriate. i'm a boy scout. i love the scouting organization. he did not reflect their values or who they are or even the appropriateness of speaking to the group that was standing in front of him. so it was wrong. my brother was a police officer. no, you don't give that i...

Scouting as flourished in lds units. i think it's something they're struggling with right now but given time they will make the right decision and mel come gay leaders as well. >> let me get your reaction to one of the statements because the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints says it's deeply troubled by the voted aing when the leadership of the church resumes its regular schedule of meetings in august, the century long association with scouting will need to be examined. what would you like to say to them in terms of making a decision about this? >> well, i would encourage them to ple...

Ministries not just as scout leaders. i should point out i'm also a girl scout leader in addition to being a boy scout leader. the church i think is -- would be welcoming me back. our particular parish what we're what we're waiting to see, however, how the archdiocese of louisville and the catholic committee for scouting comes down on the scouting. there's a decision to be made and might choose to have a membership standards to overlay kind of what's going to be out there for the rest of the scouting organization. >> greg it sounds like you are quite the servant to your community for young kid...