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Of what they're proposing. you got a screaming level of transmission in the northeast, in new york city, and washington, d.c. trying to open schools at this point, it is hard to imagine how things will go well. there is just too high level of virus transmission. >> he suggested keep kids home longer, don't send them back, maybe extend the school year into the summer. what do you make of that? should we not send our kids back now? >> i think, poppy, i think the dilemma is that you have a lot of smart people all over the country, who have, you know, very different views on what to do. and then y...

Isolation. but i think it's -- from the not to incorporate testing in this. >> really important point. dr. hotez, new york city's seven-day average of new cases is now near 20%. pediatric hospitalizations have seen a fivefold increase and today the city announced the public school system here -- you've got, um, 1.1 million students in it -- will re-open as scheduled next week with expanded testing. is it the right move? is it safe? >> well, it -- it may be the right move but i wouldn't do it now. um, in terms of what they're proposing, you have got a screaming level of transmission in the nort...

Ten days, and 50% of that time people can actually be out with a mask in society. the reason the cdc gives is not because there's a shortage of tests. >> well, there is really no part of the u.s. that is being spared from the omicron surge. florida's health department says cases quadrupled last week, and according to the cdc, christmas eve marked a new record with more than 32,000 new infections. more people are testing positive for the virus in new york city. the health department reports close to 20% of all tests are coming back positive on average over the past week. public schools in the c...

We're going to get there. the nation's biggest public school system, new york city, plans to open january 3rd despite a city wide surge in cases. schools will have at-home testin tes testing kits for classrooms, and kids will take two tests per day seven days. health experts have different views on that plan. >> schools need to be open. everyone talks about the needs of our kids. their health needs, physical health, mental health, nutrition needs, social needs, academic needs -- schools need to be open. >> i wouldn't do it now in terms of what they're proposing. you've got a screaming level ...

>> new york city is now requiring all education staff including teachers and principals to be vaccinated. do you think that other cities and states should follow suit? >> look, we have to, jake. if we're serious as a nation about getting our kids through the fall school year, here's what has to happen. basically everyone who walks into a public school has to have a mask on except maybe some of the special needs kids who can't do it. and everyone over the age of 12 and up has to be vaccinated. when you've got this screaming level of transmission across the country and the delta variant that's h...