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Did things exactly the right way. they wanted to keep the information secret and in the proper channels and inform the leadership and the congress of what they learned. that is what a good intelligence officer should do. so this notion that people are going to go after this person, i can imagine if this person's name comes out that they and their families are not going to be safe. >> and as we get into the complaint itself, john, what is your take on the notion that the special service used for top secret files, and couldn't the trump administration simply decide to use it for something else? ...

>> and join manage se john cipher, a former member of the intelligence service, and a former world wide operation. and so i am sure that you are on the same page as us here on msnbc that we have no intent to unmask this whistle-blower, and msnbc is only reporting that it is a cia employee, and why is the president latching on the conspiracy theory, and to deflect away from the russia's culpability for some reason? >> i don't think that it deflects from russia's culpability, but the opposite. if we can remember that the theorys are pushed from the russian, and the russians are pushing the theor...