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Picking through things that might have been said or done by one candidate or another, ten or 20 or 30 years ago, why aren't we focused on what president trump said and did yesterday. the ways in which today president trump is dividing our country along racial lines. and is no longer using dog whistles, he is shouting his priorities for 2020 are going to be to divide our country. >> so you think the former vice president will really be going after president trump more than the other democratic candidates tonight? will that be a theme of his? >> it should be. and i believe it will be. wolf, the ...

Racial disparity and toxicity right now which is the president of the united states. how do you balance? >> first it is fair to compare recordsme records and that is what this campaign is all about and i heard bakari talking about that before i came on and as much as the biden campaign might want it, this campaign is not about joe biden and the ten people on the stage and the best candidate to represent the democratic party and be president. >> does that mean that cory booker the senator from new jersey is not going to come at joe biden? >> that is not why we're here. let's put it that way. we...

Plans this week. biden with more of a public option and both sides, both camps have been going back and forth about the details of the plans and who they think has the better issue. that is something we're going to see play out again tonight and, chris, you mentioned an important point here, half of the field is into the september debates with the higher threshold for qualifications that means five are not and are in danger of missing out and this being the last major moment on stage. those individuals think people like senator kirsten gillibrand, this is their last shot to make a moment, to c...

And kamala harris. they leveled -- they went after him big time on race-related issues do you think they'll continue to do that. >> if you listen to cory booker, absolutely. and the visuals are going to be right there. what you'll see is joe biden, an older white man sandwiched between two people of color. if last night was the battle between the moderates and the liberals. tonight is the battle between what is the democratic party and the base of the democratic party. more diverse, women. we'll see a much more diverse stage. we'll see people of color on the stage. half of that field, people o...

Defends his record in that regard. >> it is such a sensitive issue going after him and his retaliating because the fear is that it helps trump. >> sure. one person who is watching this among perhaps more than others is the 21st candidate and that is donald j trump. he's running against one of these people and no doubt talking to republicans, they were thrilled by what they saw last evening about democrats taking on democrats. it will be ten-fold tonight. watching all tv pl-- all of it playing out. but joe biden is making this race about the long view. look at november 2020 and beyond this. but...