Rebecca, that makes perfect sense from what we know. evangelicals are increasingly republican. >> exactly. and what we're also seeing is that non-religious voters are decreasing in their support among republicans. for the past 15 years people who identify as non-religious, fewer and fewer of them are voting -- >> so the democrats are becoming a secular party, carol? >> i don't know about that. but the demographics -- if you look at what's happening in this poll, there's a long-term implication for the republican party because it's not just -- you know, there's obviously a decrease in religion ...