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Security borders donald trump. if we litigate on that, the conservatives and the republicans are in good shape. >> what about that war of words? that got heated. to have the governor of california to respond saying pence is a problem for the country. >> he said that the vice president is a larger problem for the country than the illegal alien migrant caravan. last time i checked, mike pence is not here illegally or part of ms-13. if you look at the map, most of them are from honduras. they went all the way west to get to california because jerry brown has sympathy for them. it's a sanctuary st...

Through a primary and then election. >> yes, to bring forth that america first agenda that donald trump put forth originally on the campaign trail. we want security borders, stop illegal immigration, fix the tax code, get rid of obamacare. make sure our military is the strongest military in the world, that's what the people in arizona want and people in the united states want and so jeff flake stepping down yesterday was a big victory for voters and citizens of this country. we have got an optimistic path forward. >> i want to ask you about why you believe jeff flake wasn't bringing that to th...

In the rio grande. if you look at the rio grande west of brownsville where most of the illegal crossings occur, sometimes it is very small. >> so let me get this right. because you said you're optimistic and i'm a preacher, always full of hope. it is sunday morning. so you're saying that you don't care if undocumented immigrants are helped in your state which is something i agree w you also are saying that there should be ways to deal with illegal immigrants coming in and dealing with daca in a humane way. and you only want part of the wall, not the whole wall. maybe i partly agree with that. ...

Millions voted with that in mind. it's a democracy. you have to responds to that. if you don't, voters think you don't care and they get angry and act out. illegal immigration is without question a legitimate voter concern. >> neil: should it be on our dime. have the mexicans pay for it. >> i mean, look, i -- probably speaking for a lot of people that it was hard to imagine them and it's hard to imagine now how the mexican government that calls the wall racist was going to wind up paying for it. if there's any function of government that is legitimate and constitutionally certified, it's the r...

>> why do they do that? what's in their political interests to rush this through? >> because there are many self-delewdded run up runs in washington who feel that this kind of shannessty will be wille salvation of a party in trouble. they're talking out of one side of their math to grassroots conservatives and people of all political persuasions who believe that it is the government's constitutional mandated role to secure the border. these people are treating it as if it's some sort of person april fool's joke and has been since the day eye of amnesty under reagan. the promise of security bor...