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This is not republican or democrat. the american people have been lied to. that is what is immoral about this. >> tucker: obama called for a fence. we have a fence along the tijuana border. you're okay with that. you're for border security. if the fence became a wall, it's immoral. tell me the difference. is there an aesthetic -- >> it's semantics. democrats voted for the 700-mile wall, fence, whatever you want to call it. >> tucker: so your not for fences either. >> we've seen that -- it's going to help the borders patrol do their job better but we can find -- >> tucker: do you think -- >> th...

That has been a good ally like mexico. it says we're for hate. we don't want others -- >> tucker: so -- >> that's what immoral -- >> wait a minute. >> tucker: i get it. where is univision head quarters? in florida or new york? >> we're in florida. >> tucker: if i got the day off and i sat at your building, would i show i.d. or use your office and -- >> you would also find a wall around my home. i'm sure you have one also, tucker. >> tucker: i don't, unfortunately. >> those are not for your neighbors and business partners, the person in charge of helping you out on saturday night with the kids ...

Immoral? maybe because it's effective? >> i didn't say sinner. the pope, the leader of the catholic church think it's immoral. >> tucker: is there a wall around the vatican? so the pope. there's a wall around the vatican. if i tried to get in the vatican without the pope's -- >> i never had an issue walking into st. peter's square. it's a line and everybody can go -- >> tucker: i've been there. there's a wall. >> you can't -- >> tucker: i've been there. >> anybody can walk into st. peter's square without an issue. >> tucker: is the square. >> right. that's the heart of the vatican. >> tucker: ...

God hates walls. if walls are immoral, what about fences? obama seemed it like them. >> the bill before us, will certainly do some good. it will authorize some badly needed funding for better fences and better security along our borders scombchlt that should help stem some of the tide of illegal immigration in this country. >> tucker: better fences says obama. that sounds immoral. what about israel's security wall until it's big and real and very effective. pelosi supported it and voted for a resolution defending that wall from un condemnation. it's confusing. it must have been before her conv...

This time the 9th circuit again. >> yeah, jim. the president has a bone to pick with the 9th circuit court, and he's not going to let anything get in the way of that argument. even a call yesterday thanking military members for their service on the thanksgiving holiday. president trump is insisting these that judges don't know anything about border security and they are hampering his agenda. and the president is insisting on twitter today, just a few minutes ago that republicans and democrats need to come together and pass a security package that includes funding for his security wall. he's tw...