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Murk lee from the great state of iowa. democrats only need four votes to force the senators hand to call witnesses in the trial. this week we heard lisa murkowski of alaska suggest she's not in lock step with mcconnell. she particularly took exception to the fact mcconnell said he's working hand in glove with the white house, and now we see these ads taking aim with susan collins. you worked side by seed side with both of them in the senate. do you think it's likely that either or both of them could vote with democrats on this? >> i think it is possible. all sorts of developments are going to ...

Because it's all designed to deal with trump doing what he's done his whole life, trying to take the focus off him. this guy violated the constitution. he said it in the driveway of the white house. >> good to know. joining us now senator jeff m k murkly for the great state -- this week we heard lisa murkowski of alaska suggest she's not in lock step with mcconnell. she particularly took exception to the fact mcconnell said he's working hand in glove with the white house, and now we see these ads taking aim with susan collins. you worked side by seed side with both of them in the senate. do yo...