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Her performance which was a strong line and she set a distinct contrast with biden. it kept this entire -- she's able to keep news coverage around her and she was able to dominate that and then in the weeks since it becomes a bit muddle because of her position on bussing and a question that has now entered into the debate. as the longer biden has to talk about this. the more that it could potentially hurt him but so far a lot of the reports on the ground on the trail are that voters are not necessarily impacted by it. >> yeah, interesting. ryan, joe biden, when biden apologized for his segrega...

Essentially doomed? >> i think he's going to continue to fall, i think you're going to see kamala harris and elizabeth warren continue to move up, joe biden as we've always knowned is prone and wouldn't own the segregation comment enough. >> how do you feel apologizing? >> i feel it's a little too late, he's somebody who should have -- i wouldn't have leaned on that. look, just apologize and move on, and he didn't do that, i think that's going to hurt him with a lot of the democratic base, many of whom are african american. >> what do you think of joe biden flipping and kamala harris rising? >...

Focus of the contenders this week? >> well, they're all going to be gunning on joe biden. now, i debated joe biden in '08. he's a very good debater. he conveys truth. he conveys competence. he conveys a lot of good things. i think he's going to be very tough to beat. i know he had a bad week on the segregation comment, but he's had vast experience, and that's going to come through. but i would expect most of the candidates will be gunning for the front runners, and he clearly is a front runner now. don't underestimate him. >> okay. there you go. they've heard it. thank you, bill. appreciate it...

To make a teachable moment in the course of the week. my impression of the way he talked about it in this way, he does not see it with a lot of clarity, i don't think, and he certainly is taking the posture he's not going to apologize tore my pa -- for any part of it. the segregation comment was taken out of context and i thought the answer was not very clear or clean. he made a reference to kennedy and to how kennedy was called "boy" -- >> that's why i said they wouldn't call me "son." >> i didn't understand it, so i thought you gave him a chance to very cleanly say that he had misspoken or t...