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The world? it's not just with us, but talking to people who are radicalized. you have to tell them there's mercy and compassion. we're not pass fist. i'm not here to preach that we don't have times where we can justify defending ourselves, but at the same time, my gosh, man, how can you blow up women and children and live a life like that. it's just horrible. >> i think that one of the questions though that comes up in that is sometimes people that do get radicalized don't have those outside interactions with people. they don't have supporters of their same mindset around them so they turn to ...

Muslims, you know, that slice of the population has been somewhat more likely, it seems, to turn toward violence that is inspired by religion, connected to these larger international transnational causes. for example, you have buddhists, you have hindus, christians, all manner of religious beliefs where you have people who turn violent. >> the ira, catholic -- >> they tend not to connect it to a transnational cause, right? and so i think that when you look at the tsarnaev brothers, it appears that they were motivated by this transnational cause. now it was also homegrown, rights. so we don't k...

Multiple -- by the russian government to multiple agencies, from what i gather, there were only two requests, and if they were not identical, they were nearly identical. so i think people should avoid this rush to judgment of a bureau that frankly has been doing spectacular work in the investigation since the event. and i haven't seen an indication yet they failed to do the work they should have before the event. >> senators mccain requesting the -- hold a hearing to this. it seemed to me there were plenty of grounds to at the very least have an inquiry. >> absolutely. i think homeland securit...

Also, these claims that there were multiple requests by multiple -- by the russian government to multiple agencies, from what i gather, there were only two requests, and if they were not identical, they were nearly identical. so i think people should avoid this rush to judgment of a bureau that frankly has been doing spectacular work in the investigation since the event. and i haven't seen an indication yet they failed to do the work they should have before the event. >> senators mccain requesting the -- hold a hearing to this. it seemed to me there were plenty of grounds to at the very least ...

Government to multiple agencies, from what i gather, there were only two requests, and if they were not identical, they were nearly identical. so i think people should avoid this rush to judgment of a bureau that frankly has been doing spectacular work in the investigation since the event. and i haven't seen an indication yet they failed to do the work they should have before the event. >> senators mccain requesting the homeland security hold a hearing as soon as possible into this. it seemed to me there were plenty of grounds to at the very least have an inquiry. >> absolutely. i think homela...