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Tells cnn, he think there may have been a friend, someone who helped to radicalize him, teached him more radical notions. he may have been an armenian immigrant to the united states. has this figure come up in your intelligence briefings? >> we've heard the same reports obviously. and, in fact, common sense would tell you that if he got it off the internet he probably ran in some circles with people that thought the same way he did. that report wouldn't necessarily be totally off the wall it would certainly fall in with this -- with this self-radicalization and two individuals who got to immer...

Future. >> you know, we've heard stories about the 9/11, the guys who took over the planes flying into the world trade center, screeching with joy over allah, they're going to paradise, nirvana. i have to tell you, in all the days we tried to figure out those pictures before we found out who these guys were, i saw that younger guy strutting down that street. >> uh-huh. >> he was a hot dog. he was enjoying that. whatever he was doing, it wasn't sweating, it wasn't feeling guilty. he was strutting. i just think -- i don't see anything that suggests in any kind of tempering conscience. >> it was ...

This is what he is saying. in addition, we found out some more details. one of them that is the wars in iraq and afghanistan are part of the motivating factors, part of this jihadist mind set, believing themselves to be under attack. in addition, erin, we also found out that, according to dzhokhar, again, take it with a grain of salt, he and his brother were self-radicalized. they were radicalized by watching videos on the internet. now, among those videos it is told likely, likely from this government official that the preachings of cleric anwar almaleki key that that was part of the self rad...

Investigation, and interviews with dzhokhar tsarnaev, but what he is telling investigators is first of all, there were no foreign groups involved with the terrorist attacks. that this was just the brothers. second of all, that they were radicalized online. that there was an online component, watching videos, downloading information, not e-mailing back and forth with anybody abroad. but there was a big online component to their self-radicalization. also, as you might expect dzhokhar to say, and as we've heard when others in the family have described the family dynamic, the older brother, accord...

Pieces here. one is self-radicalization, we can understand that. what happened in russia is going to be critical for tamerlan. the second part is the internal family dynamic here. the role of the mother, how other members of the family saw what was happening and what they did -- >> the mother denies everything. >> well, she does. she also based on what we've seen from interviews was very, very devout and went on an extremist approach toward religion and toward the united states. clearly the relationship with her and tamerlan, the older brother, was important. and we're going to need to delve i...