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Women, when you come back, will you be able to get a job? that's the national unemployment figure. 5.0. let's look at veterans. 7.2% after 9/11. kieran, your reaction to that number? >> a lot of things veterans do twh they come home, they start businesses. they're leaders and self-starters. very difficult to start a business, a small business, the regulatory burden is incredible. the tax burden to stave up a little money is incredible. if we got the hurdles out the way for the entire country, veterans will benefit in a great way. >> you come back, in the military minds, you got to get back int...

When things go wrong. because, you know, a boss holds you accountable. so if things start to go badly in this company, who's going to take the fall, the blame for that? i mean, are people going to be fired? it almost sounds like big government where there's not going to be accountability because there's so many soldiers, nobody wants to really be in charge. >> the soldier reference is an interesting one, andrea are, because the atlantic actually made that comparison. i'm sure people are thinking of not just politics, but they're thinking of the military as well. pockets of the military have be...

And also they are using improvised explosive devices so they can put them in, you know large areas. so this is -- al qaeda never really focussed on getting individuals to carry out attacks here in the u.s. there were some self-starters and some lone wolves but isis is actually directly communicating with people in this country urging them urging them to carry out attacks. when i say directly communicate, some of the direct communications. others just, like directives that they put over the internet and they're being followed. >> but what makes this so frustrating and this is what i'm wondering...

And often it's cross-pollination. it doesn't have to be one or the other or it doesn't mean somebody that is affiliated with one, joining another. i would say the main suspects right now would be al qaeda in the arabian peninsula or isis or a com bin airgzkom bincombination, someone who fought with one and is now fighting with the other. >> it seems like a sophisticated operation, right? >> this is extremely sophisticated and i heard it mention several times and the way they carried their weapons and the way they calmly when something was dropped they would take the time to pick it up and the ...

The planning, the way they hold their weapons, the way they actually go to kill et cetera but also if you look at the way they return to the car. we know from the sophistication of planning that they've thought this through and simple tactics and tactics tell us that. if the car was their escape route, which it clearly was, they would haven't left that unguard sod there was either one person near the car or keep their eye on the car. secondly i want to focus on something. it's very very dangerous to actually say that this particular gunmen were inspired by isil because maybe about nine years, ...